Episode 104: Stem Cell Nutrition for Keeping Your Body Young with Robert Hill

Dr. Deb and Robert discuss how stem cell nutrition can do more than stem cell injections. Learn how this improves arthritis, cognitive function, mobility and much more.

Do not miss these highlights:

[5:14] After being diagnosed arthritis, Robert was looking at joint replacement.  Not convinced that was the route for him, he started looking into other modalities of treatment

[7:28] After having to find a new chiropractor he was steered towards looking into stem cell therapy and started to use StemAlive™ which he saw improvements with flexibility and manual dexterity

[13:13] The decline in growth hormone and stem cells development in the body after the age of 25

[15:00] The addictive nature of sugar and the effect the stem cell supplements had on it

[20:20] The benefits of growing your own food and eating it ‘live’

[25:54] Further benefits of stem cell therapy he has had including the healing of skin conditions, scars, digestion, eye sight and hearing improvements

[34:16] Releasing trauma and sharing positive energy has an impact on yourself and those in your environment

[37:12] Growing your own food does not need to take up time and organically is much better for your health

About Our Guest:

Robert Hill is a semi-retired software engineer and a follower of alternative heath care. When symptoms of osteoarthritis began limiting his movement in 2009 he began his search for a solution. When stem cell therapy was suggested he began researching stem cells and discovered stem cell nutrition as an alternative. Today he is free of joint pain and has greatly increased mobility. With the return to health he now uses organic methods to grow healthy food in his back yard. At 73 he feels younger and more vibrant.


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Transcription for Episdode #104:

Debra Muth 0:02
Welcome to Let’s Talk Wellness Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging and live our lives on our own terms. My guest today is Robert Hill. Robert is a semi retired software engineer and follower of alternative health care. When symptoms of osteoarthritis began limiting his movement in 2009, he began his search for a solution. And when stem cell therapy was suggested, he began researching like any engineer would, and discovered that stem cell nutrition as an alternative. Today he is free of joint pain and has greatly increased mobility. And with the return to health, he now uses organic methods to grow healthy food in his backyard. At age 73 he feels younger and more vibrant than ever. Welcome, Robert to my show. I’m Dr. Deb, founder of serenity Health Care Center, I want to thank you for joining our let’s talk wellness now, podcast, it has been such a pleasure to share our knowledge with so many people. We are averaging about 25,000 downloads an episode and that is amazing because it’s showing us how much people want to learn about health and wellness. Outside of the health care center, we have had the pleasure of changing lives for over 8500 clients, both men, women and their children. As a result of this, I have created serenity you a university Learning Center where you can access all of my knowledge that I have developed over 25 years of practice at your fingertips in an easy to find index library, you will have access to this dashboard 24 seven, it will be like having your own personal natural path at your beck and call. Anytime a day. I’d like to encourage you to check it out at SerenityU.com.

Debra Muth 2:15
Ladies and gentlemen, I’d like to introduce you to Robert Hill. Robert is going to talk to us today about stem cell nutrition and his journey in finding this as a relief for arthritis. So I think this can affect so many of our listeners right now. Because we’re all suffering from something and being stuck at home and COVID and not moving as much we’re finding that our bodies are hurting a little more than we’re used to them hurting. So welcome to the show, Robert. So happy to have you here.

Robert Hill 2:45
Thank you, Dr. Deb. I’ve been struggling with arthritis since 2008. And the struggle you stopped in 2015.

Debra Muth 2:54
Interesting, interesting. So you went on a journey to find an answer to your arthritic pain now did you have arthritis all over or more so in just one area.

Robert Hill 3:04
I went in for a while I was doing I did handyman work on the side for friends of mine. I’m a software engineer by profession so I did a lot of sitting. That’s an important takeaway from this for sure. If you do a lot of sitting, make sure you get up every half hour hour, just walk around the room, do some sort of movement is that that’s what tied me up a lot. When I was diagnosed, that is 2008/2009 I was diagnosed with arthritis. And my MD said I was heading for joint replacement. And throughout my whole body.

Debra Muth 3:31

Robert Hill 3:32
Pretty much both knees both hips, my left shoulder and possibly ankles. If I didn’t take the medications they wanted me to take.

Debra Muth 3:42
Did you have an autoimmune component to your arthritis so that it affected so many joints for you?

Robert Hill 3:48
Well, what I found out after the fact it was mostly inflammation, inflammation, yeah, the rest is just the usual wear and tear. Yeah, I have a few ideas about that, just from thinking about it. Like taking the body like it’s an automobile. You have to put oil in that car, you know, where are your pistons faster? Well, maybe the joints are the same way. There’s a lot of things in our diet are preventing us from being healthy as well.

Debra Muth 4:10
That is so true. There are so many things in our diet that create more inflammation for us. And the average person doesn’t know that until they go looking for a reason because they’re hurting, right? Normally, if we’re not hurting, we don’t care what we eat or what we drink or how much we move because we feel great. It’s only when we don’t feel so great that we start looking for answers. But I’d like your analogy because you’re absolutely right. If we put high octane fuel in our body, like we would put premium octane in our cars, our bodies would run a lot better if we had better quality nutrition that we had access to all the time.

Robert Hill 4:46
And that’s the that’s the final piece of this as well at the time. I used to joke about I had a very balanced diet. Half of my diet was super healthy. I grew up I grow a lot of food in my backyard. It was a city lot but it was a fence to fence organic garden. So I grow a lot of healthy food in that sense. But the other half was junk food. That’s the junk food that got me and the sugar goes to the sugar.

Debra Muth 5:10
Yeah, sugar is so inflammatory.

Robert Hill 5:12
So 2009, I’m thinking $40-50,000 to get replacements, and maybe you have to get them repeated. I talked to other people that said, some said is the best thing I’ve ever done. Some said it’s the worst thing I’ve ever done again. You go to church an kneel. He’s a Catholic. He’s looked at this, that’s that got me started looking. Where else can I go? I was already convinced about chiropractic because of prior success with that carpal tunnel syndrome in the 80s. And I went to a chiropractor, he adjusted my neck and the carpet went away, never to return. The other time I had siatica and the same thing, chiropractic took care of that. So I went that route first with chiropractic for about six months. And it took me about halfway there, I reached that plateau area or just was no more improvement. It’s like it’s fighting against the inevitable sort of idea that you’re looking at other modalities and they all work the same ways, pretty much they they tried to get the body to work again. But there was something in the way that was preventing that. Possibly not available that was preventing that.

Debra Muth 6:15
Yeah, absolutely.

Robert Hill 6:17
It’s like in my vegetable garden, if I don’t give calcium to my tomatoes, then the tomato is gonna crack or have rot because it needs the calcium to prevent that. So those kinds of things came into play as well. Yeah, and I went through things like I went through things like rolfing, which is started out as painful I still do rolfing. Because of the facial tissues are still frozen up a little bit in some parts of the body. He’s done wonders for my posture. You went through Ayurvedic medicine, Chinese medicine, naturopathics. And like I mentioned chiropractic. And they all took me to that point where I’m almost there, but I still had that pain level two or three constant. I delved into medical marijuana for a while that too, for the pain that actually allowed me to move fairly well. So I knew there’s something in there that’s blocking this.

Debra Muth 7:03
Yeah. So you were feeding the endocannabinoid system with with the marijuana and then all of the other modalities that you were doing, I’m assuming they all were focusing on decreasing inflammation, increasing circulation, getting the synovial fluids to move inside of the joints again. And so for that last little bit that you had hanging on, you started researching stem cell, is that correct?

Robert Hill 7:28
Yes. I didn’t research it until one of the chiropractors I was seeing but the first one I had retired, so I had to find another one. He suggested instead of having joint replacement to have stem cell therapy, that’s when I started that research. Because once again, that was very expensive. I had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7-7 joints to handle

Debra Muth 7:48
Minimum, yes!

Robert Hill 7:49
And repeating as well. They don’t last forever. And so I started, I started researching that. And I was going to a health to a hardware store. And I was at the point where there was so much inflammation and whatever else was going on. I had trouble moving. I can barely walk. I was stumbling to walk, I’d have to stop pause. I just got worn out. So I was taking back some electrical parts to a hardware store. And a friend of mine saw me there asked what was going on. I told her that I have arthritis, I’m struggling to move. I can’t do electrical work anymore. I can’t turn a screwdriver. Mm hmm. She gave me a bottle of a product called stem ally that her brother and sister have used. And her sister was with endometriosis. She now has two very healthy children. She had endometriosis at an early age. He’s maybe early 20s. They reversed that for her. So I said I’ll give it a try. I didn’t have any confidence anything would work. they’d gone through so many modalities that at that point, the pain levels were sevens and eights less I smoked marijuana. Well, he marijuana brought it down to two or three so I could function but in about a month, I knew something was up because I couldn’t reach my knees. You know the bit about touching, touching your toes. I couldn’t even touch my knee. I just reached out and touched my knee. Oh, wow, this stuff’s working. So I continued, I increase the dosage. It’s a product, but that’s all natural 16 ingredients, all from different medical models from around the world. The founder of the company was trying to find a cure for cancer. To help with cancer. I’m not gonna say she found a cure, but a lot of people reversed cancer.

Debra Muth 9:23
Yeah. Well, and that’s, you know, that’s the interesting thing. Oftentimes, when we’re looking in medicine, for one thing, we all of a sudden find that what we’re working on is actually really good for something else. And they may have similar properties like cancer is an inflammatory state. So if we’re doing something to reduce inflammation, we’re helping with cancer at the same time. And that’s a great thing, because whenever we will, whenever we want to prevent disease, we have to reduce that inflammation. Otherwise disease just keeps lapping one on top of the next on top of the next so it’s great that you found this nutritional supplementation for stem cell. Oftentimes when people do stem cell, they still have to do some kind of nutritional support along with it or it doesn’t work as well, because you still have to do something to reduce that chronic inflammation. acutely, you don’t want to reduce the inflammation because the stem cells there to heal. But afterwards, you’re still looking for something to reduce that inflammation. And so oftentimes, they will give something along that lines homeopathic or nutritional of some kind. So tell us a little bit more about this product that you found and what it did for you.

Robert Hill 10:35
Just as a side note, before finding this product, I was taking turmeric, I was taking glucose, glucose, sodium sulfate, that’s a jawbreaker, sometimes a few other products like that. But I found from other doctors along the way, like the chiropractors or the Chinese medicine, a few of those ashwagandha was still taking Siberian Ginseng and a few other things that were helping. So I continue to take those turns out Stem Life, I’ve had all those in their ingredients.

Debra Muth 10:59
So you didn’t have to take all those separate things anymore.

Robert Hill 11:02
Yeah, so I’m just taking a single single package. So just like a one a day vitamins idea. And I did one of my one of my chiropractors did that does kinesiology muscle testing to determine I should be taking four. So I started taking four, and in six months, I could bend at the waist, standing out can touch my toes.

Debra Muth 11:21
Interesting, that’s amazing!

Robert Hill 11:23
My typing speed started increasing, I was typing 70-80 words a minute before I was down to lucky if I get 10 words a minute typing speed. Those changes those changes have I realized this is something I wanted to share it with with other people. That’s what got me into. At the time I was doing health shows and those kind of things as well. And people just saved me they didn’t believe my age. I’m 73.

Debra Muth 11:44
That’s great. You look amazing.

Robert Hill 11:46
Andas this on video, just as one example, I could not get out of a chair without using my hands. And today, it’s not a problem. This sort of movement at 73. No problem. I’m not doing exercises, I just do gardening. Yeah, I’m at the point yet until the spacious issue finishes up because I get I did Tai Chi for a while, but my body would switch because of a sudden nerve impulse or nerve. I couldn’t I couldn’t maintain that inner inner focus of energy. And now I’m getting back to I can do that. So I’m not actually doing an exercise program yet. I’m not my body’s not ready for it. It’s the final piece of the raw things taking care of that. The amazing thing with the stem cell supplements. And so just so your audience knows, we haven’t really talked about that, when we’re born about possibly the fifth or sixth iteration of the steps of the cells dividing after fertilization. That’s when the stem cells are created in the physical form before and after just an energy matrix. And from there, they create every cell of the body. When you get to be in your early 20s, it’s been shown that stem cell production decrease adult stem cell production starts to decrease. And I got to thinking about that, because rather research. Alcohol kills stem cells,

Debra Muth 12:59
yes, it does.

Robert Hill 13:00
People start drinking in their 20s. So the statistics might be off a little bit. Because of that. So that’s your moderation and alcohol. Maybe they die to young or get illnesses because your stem cells aren’t doing their job.

Debra Muth 13:13
Well, it’s part of the natural aging process, you know, we’re at our peak at like, 20 to 25. And after that, it’s all downhill from there, and growth hormone goes down, stem cell development goes down, hormones start to go down, everything starts to decline gradually. And that’s when we start to see that gradual increase of age because we don’t have all of those things that were at their peak when we were in our 20s. And unfortunately, we think that we can’t ever have that back again. And it’s so wrong because we can!

Robert Hill 13:44
Well, that’s that’s the thing, like there’s a part of the stem cell called a telomere. Apparently those shorten I don’t know the deep science of that one. But they shorten and the company has done research that shows after isn’t a product for a couple of years, the telomeres lengthen.

Debra Muth 13:58
Yeah. And you can actually do a blood test to measure your telomere age based on your chronological age. And so you can see how close you are in age. And based on that you may want to really ramp up doing some things or you may want to say yeah, my life style’s pretty good. It looks all right. And, and that’s a really nice way of judging what you’re doing. Is it actually working for you or do you need to tweak some of that?

Robert Hill 14:24
Exactly. And that’s the other thing, I found that as, as I was noticing that the inflammation was going away. I also lost weight over it. That could have been part of it. But about three months in, I had a habit, I’d go to the local liquor store and buy three Sunday papers to get different views of the news. I’d always get candy bars and a soda of some sort. Yeah, well, one once one Sunday morning, I forgot that sweets. I just didn’t have that desire to have them. And I never went back. It just went away something in the supplement took away the desire to have sugar.

Debra Muth 14:56
That’s awesome.

Robert Hill 14:57
And then the inflammation really went fast.

Debra Muth 15:00
Yeah, as soon as you get that sugar out of your diet, it’s so much better. Sugar, the addiction of sugar, they say is equal to an addiction of heroin 10 times, it’s more addicting than heroin, inpart A) it’s legal and it’s everywhere, right? That makes it bad. You can’t even have ketchup without having sugar in it. But it is so addictive for us. And it’s something that’s around everywhere. So it’s so hard to get rid of that.

Robert Hill 15:25
And that was the biggest surprise because I was I was really addicted to sugar, I would go on vacation in Oregon. The first place I’d stop and I’d buy a pound to fudge, it would last be to the next place with fudge.

Debra Muth 15:36

Robert Hill 15:37
Sometimes you get five pounds of fudge on the two week vacation, those kind of things or cookies or other sweets and I was truly addicted to sweets, and it just went away. That really shocked me. And other other other health and healthy, health wise. Other symptoms of other illnesses went away that yes, it’s inflammation cause but some of it is. That’s why I believe it’s the stem cell supplement part that there’s ingredients include anti inflammatory, so I know that’s a piece of it. And they oxidize other ingredients because it is taken from a lot of medical models. But within that timeframe, I have seen a dentist every three months because I had gum disease. And nothing I did got rid of it. Nothing the dentist did got rid of and bleeding gums, I went in for a tooth cleaning and said what’s going on your gums aren’t bleeding. And since then, my gum pockets have gone from eights and nines. This is totally unheard of, to ones and twos.

Debra Muth 16:30
Great. Oh my gosh.

Robert Hill 16:31
Like I said, I’m in my 70s and my gums healed to other parts to skin cancer went away, my hairline went from the back of my head and it’s now here. You can’t tell but it was back here. Yeah, another three or four inches of growth coming forward, it’s continuing to go forward. As you can see, it’s no longer thin. My skin cleared up from rosacea. There may be others I don’t my vision improved. my fingernails got really, really strong. Other things.

Debra Muth 17:02
I’m curious, did you notice any change in your cognitive function, your focus and concentration, those kinds of things. You’re very intelligent as an engineer. So I’m, I’m assuming the inflammation kind of shifted that a little bit. And I’m curious if this product helps that.

Robert Hill 17:18
As part of my career, I was known as the no bug guy. I wrote clean code. bulletproof code is some of the terms. I didn’t have bugs in my code. I got in trouble for one company because I’m not supposed to debug my own code. We got a whole department to do that. Why should they actually work that I already know what’s best. I did start slipping in my 50s a little bit. And then in my 60s, I was getting more of a struggle. I’m back in it. And I still have a few bugs here and there. But I was getting really bad at this. It’s improving more and more. And cognitively I’m back to watch these shows of All TV is usually really bad. There’s a few shows that really helped intellectually on those quiz shows that they’re asking silly questions. How long should I pull back up from my memory? I spent a lot of time in libraries as a child. One, one piece that I left out that I feel I feel is important. I was at two months premature baby. I had brain damage at birth and lung, one lung collapse, and I had a heart murmur.

Debra Muth 18:19
Mm hmm.

Robert Hill 18:20
I and my digestive system didn’t fully develop. So I had to take different things to help you digest food. I was always underweight. Something changed my blood. But my blood work. I worked at a company that did blood gas analyzers in the 80s. We had to donate blood. They told me you’re dying needed to see a doctor, you’re so short and so many things in your diet. How do you say the word diet I throw that in? But my bloodwork so a lot of problems? And so I went to the doctor. Yeah, sure enough, so I had to start taking all kinds of supplements. That’s why I was taking the other ones for the Arthritis as well. Yeah. Like blood work since four years ago is normal. With no problems. And there’s I guess there’s statistics that some doctors do. At the start of this, the first bloodwork that came back normal statistically, health wise on 60s, the 60s, the last one the side and the 47 year old bridge,

Debra Muth 19:13
Isn’t that amazing.

Robert Hill 19:15
I don’t know what they’re basing that on, other than the statistics of how many people have have these medications, these symptoms and all that I don’t have symptoms anymore. Other than the creaky joints that’s still there, but there’s no pain with it. I still hear the scraping, but I’m investigating a few things on that if they become legal. Ozone injections.

Debra Muth 19:35
Ozone can be so helpful

Robert Hill 19:37
So the car can be restored

Debra Muth 19:39
Yeah. Ozone and prolotherapy are really great.

Robert Hill 19:45
Oh my chess game is coming back as well.

Debra Muth 19:47
Oh,there you go. So there’s that cognitive thinking, right? That’s strategic planning of everything in there, that’s wonderful!

Robert Hill 19:54
Improved cognitive abilities back big time, like when I was in my 30s, maybe I’m not back to my time. Want to shift back to my 30s, early 40s.

Debra Muth 20:03
So when we’re talking about wanting to age gracefully and live life as young as we possibly can for as long as we possibly can, it sounds like you’re attributing a lot of that type of thing to this Stem life product that you came across.

Robert Hill 20:20
Well, as I did, the research, I realized a lot of is because of the anti inflammatories that maybe if I had the right combination of anti inflammatories, similar things would have happened. But as I mentioned, I was already doing that some of these products I was taking, especially at the inflammatories, one chiropractor recognized that. A lot of the changes. We mentioned earlier about diet, a lot of the changes about six or seven months in, I started with heavy gardening again, I had to just give it up because I just couldn’t do the work. So I started getting back into gardening again. So I mean, I call it live food because the energy pattern of the food is still there. If you pick a salad you did 30 minutes later, you’re eating live food.

Debra Muth 20:59

Robert Hill 20:59
I don’t mean like eating insects, I’m talking about the vegetable. Right, it still has what’s called an ORAC field, like humans have in our energy fields the planet does as well, eating that energy, that life energy, not just the physical stuff.

Debra Muth 21:12
Yeah. For us, it’s so important for us to understand food and where it comes from, and how its processed, and what it’s like when it gets to us. Because that is the foundation of everything that we are as humans, and we can supplement with a lot of these different things. But the origin of our food is so important because we can be eating food that has bad energy or has good energy. And I know people are gonna listen to this and think that’s crazy. But, you know, it’s like anything else. If if we’re eating animals that are abused and mistreated, and they’re full of cortisol, that’s a problem for us. Same thing, if we’re eating dead food, because it no longer has any nutritional value. We’ve depleted the soils out. There’s nothing good in it at all. It just looks like a healthy food. But it’s not. It’s not going to give us what our bodies need either.

Robert Hill 22:02
You’re speaking my language! I see that, too. I started studying the foods and I started noticing things. And one of my big concerns, not for me, but for people living in this country. Because of what happened with the China thing. Yeah, the politics, but the soy farmer had to find a market, food industry just grabbed it up. And soy has increased in so many foods. And it’s really bad, especially for the women’s estrogen cycles.

Debra Muth 22:32

Robert Hill 22:32
It disrupts them. So that’s, I don’t know if that’s out there a lot yet. But I did research on soy as my body is turned into almost like a lab, if you will, It has gotten gotten so cleaned up. If I eat soy I know I’ve eaten soy because my chin will itch.

Debra Muth 22:47
Interesting. So there’s a sensitivity there for you.

Robert Hill 22:49
It the same thing with Chili Peppers might not be like this in the back. Before StemLife I would be talking about we’d be talking I’d be going like this and I itched all over.

Debra Muth 23:00
Yeah. We also know that babies baby boys that are fed soy formula have a much higher incidence of having thyroid problems as they age.

Robert Hill 23:10
I don’t know what was in, I was IV-fed until I was six months- they call it an incubator.

Debra Muth 23:16
Yeah, yeah. Probably a lot of corn back then too. Could have been a lot of corn or dairy. I mean, back then.

Robert Hill 23:22
Well I didn’t have any food. I didn’t have any food for six months.

Debra Muth 23:25

Robert Hill 23:26
Other than IV. They had to open up my stomach and do an operation. I had pyloric stenosis, among other things. So yeah.

Debra Muth 23:36
So you’ve, you’ve healed yourself, by learning all of these different modalities and putting them to work. That’s really awesome. I love that story.

Robert Hill 23:46
And some of the surprisingly surprising finds were like I said that gum disease, well, that could have been inflammation. But for a dentist, he went a little bit into university do all kinds of natural things. He wants Loma Linda University to do a study to find out what’s going on with this guy. He does it because my gums are like a teenager. Yeah. And the same thing with my holding chiropractic. Now, that’s another thing that shifted. I get a lot of chiropractic now. I just hold chiropractic in a new one I’m exploring with now as I was sitting in the chair, similar to what I have now, but office chair, when the screws that held the seat came out. The chair slid the seat slid. I sit down with it in the back of my head off the back of the chair. Oh, and get my neck. So my X ray look like this. Oh, it says that curve like this? Yes. And I haven’t had that adjusted, I found something that only does the axis is straightening out. Mm hmm. And that’s gotten better. And again, it brought a lot of pains because the pitch of those pains are dissipating as well. And one of the things they’ve discovered is if you’re if you find yourself off to one side, a lot. I mean your Atlas is out and if you find some symptoms that might be just because of that that little pitch about the carpal tunnel. It wasn’t I had something going on these nerves, it was a pinch of the neck, pinch in the neck.

Debra Muth 25:08
Yep, that’s oftentimes where the carpal tunnel starts is way up in the neck and we experience it in the hands, but it’s the neck that’s actually out.

Robert Hill 25:16
It’s the same thing with siatica. It’s twisted wrong, I thought I put my hip out. Here, I have a chiropractor jumping up and down on my hip, to try to and get it to adjust back in and there’s nothing wrong with it. I put my neck out.

Debra Muth 25:27
Yeah, it comes up higher, it always goes higher in the body than what we think it is. That’s interesting. So you’re, you’re kind of on a mission, then to help people understand that this inflammation in their body can cause disruption and pain, and and teach people how stem alive can actually help them reverse some of that inflammation. Is that correct?

Robert Hill 25:54
Well, it’s not just that they have to learn. It’s just taking a supplement. There’s nothing to learn other than how do you take something, you just take a supplement. I use muscle testing to find out how many and it just says stimuli. But when the company was founded, that’s all they had. Since then, they’ve come out with others. They came out with a digestion product. That’s what I did. I did digestion got healed up. They came out with a liver product, which I didn’t need that my doctors told me my liver was fairly healthy. I had to watch out for my kidneys. They don’t have a kidney product. You have a skincare line that I use. I use that. I think that might be why the hair is coming forward. I rubbed it into my scalp that doesn’t have this usual stuff. I don’t know what that stuff is. I don’t care whether I’m bald or not. It just happened. But an interesting one thing that did happen. I was cooking. I do the flipping of the pan. And I flipped a little bit too much. I got grease, grease burn. Uh huh. And so I usually go for aloevera but was pouring down rain. So I thought I’ll try this stem intense product that’s for skin. And so I put it on and forgot about the pain and immediately went away in the burn. And two or three days later, I just asked out by hand I know I got some dirt on my hand burn so I brushed it off and sure enough, it looked like dirt being brushed off that I remember oh wait a minute. That was a burn. There was no blistering and the skin look normal. Not the usual pink when a blister comes off.

Debra Muth 27:12

Robert Hill 27:13
And I’ve also had scar tissue disappear. And other people that have been using the product one this woman used to be a model and she always had to hide the fact that she had was this stuff called the cottage cheese skin and a little bit

Debra Muth 27:27
Oh like psoriasis?

Robert Hill 27:28
I forget what it’s called. No not psoriasis. It’s something..

Debra Muth 27:31
eczema maybe?

Robert Hill 27:32
No, not. It’s called. It had just happened in the legs more often than than others. It makes the skin look kinda like cottage cheese. And now her skin is as smooth as can be. It’s underneath the skin. I just forget what it’s called. I never had it. Women get it more than men.

Debra Muth 27:51
Oh, like cellulite maybe?

Robert Hill 27:53
Yes that’s the one. Yeah, another gentleman had a one he was had he was diabetic and weighed over 700 pounds and he’s now at the last time I talked with him is a 350 still losing weight. His A1C went from 16 to 5.5 – 6 and a total steady and he’s just somebody I just met trying to exercise by walking. I told him you need to do aquaponics that’s what it’s called get in the water. Without much weight you’re destroying your bones.

Debra Muth 28:23
Yeah, it’s too much on them to

Robert Hill 28:25
Once he got down in weight, it was better other people like said the lady that had that I never met her but my friends Sister, sister or daughter I don’t remember how this was a sister or cousin I don’t remember It’s been too long been too long.

Debra Muth 28:37

Robert Hill 28:39
but endometriosis another gentleman was born deaf not have a nerve the nerve grew back in his 40s.

Debra Muth 28:47

Robert Hill 28:48
like I said with me my digestion is normal again- it’s never been normal! Again it’s never been normal. I went in to see about having cataracts taken care of and I got all of a sudden the doctor say I don’t know if we need to do this the cloudiness is diminishing. Now there’s no cloudiness. Early stages of cataracts happened, and yeah, I’m not there. Now they’re better. Hearing has improved a little bit. I think using headphones makes the hearing go bad.

Debra Muth 29:19
Yeah, it makes it harder. So Robert, this sounds like such a great product. If our listeners are interested in finding this. How do they find this product?

Robert Hill 29:29
Online product? It’s a stemfoods.com

Debra Muth 29:36
stemfoods.com awesome. And they can order directly from there?

Robert Hill 29:40
Yes. And I talked with the company and told them I would be on the podcast and they gave me an affiliate license. so, if people want to enter my name is Robert they will get free shipping they get free shipping on their first order.

Debra Muth 29:54
Okay, so that’ll be stemfoods.com/robert is usually how that works and then you’ll get free shipping on your first bottle or for order? Awesome.

Robert Hill 30:04
Another thing about stem cells not to take away from the research being done by the medical community. That part is looking into stem cells by wanting to program the stem cells. So you can they can take it when you’re from your own body instead of reversing umbilical cords and all the other stuff, that they’ll take it from your own body when you’re born. And then they’ll take adult stem cells as you age, and keep them in culture or whatever. And then program those cells for specific purposes. Like if you need a heart, they’ll grow you a new heart, as a transplant transmit. So that’s, that’s the current technology and those stem cells that they actually can program the stem cells to do very specific tasks.

Debra Muth 30:42
Yeah, they can. It’s pretty amazing.

Robert Hill 30:44
And my bigger objection to stem cell therapy coming from your own body, I know that’s one of the techniques, they’re taking stem cells from my arm to put into my leg. My body wants to be in my arm, and they wouldn’t be there.

Debra Muth 30:57
Mm hmm.

Robert Hill 30:57
I’d rather trust the body’s wisdom in that one. And there was an article in scientific journal, gentlemen had cartilage taken from his nose to help the spine, the stem cells, and now he has a nose going against the spinal cord.

Debra Muth 31:11

Robert Hill 31:12
the cancer is removed, because the pressure is too great, sir. That’s one of the dangers involved with with, with having stem cells taken from one part of the body to another. And then the other factor, you’re taking someone else’s DNA comes from somebody else’s umbilical cord or tissues wherever they get it from.

Debra Muth 31:30
Absolutely. And, and in some cases, that can be a good thing. But you don’t know what that person’s lifestyle was like, you don’t know what their health was like, You don’t know anything about it. And there, there are some good things. And there are some bad things, definitely with stem cell injections. And that’s why the FDA is kind of crazy about it. But it has its pluses and minuses, that’s for sure.

Robert Hill 31:53
I found that. I found people that did wonderful getting the stem cell in general, and that people did wonderful getting the body parts. But like, at the same time, I found people that had bad things happen. Absolutely. And nutrition is such a holistic approach anyway. That’s why other things went away in my body. Yes, I was going after arthritis. Surprise was to me the side effects were all good.

Debra Muth 32:16
Yeah. And that’s a wonderful thing. You know, when you’re doing something where there’s really no downside, it’s just the upside. It’s, why not try it. And, you know, the worst thing that can happen is maybe it doesn’t give you the same benefits that somebody else did. But if that’s the worst thing that could happen, and you’re you could have this possibility for so much upside, it’s worth a try. Definitely.

Robert Hill 32:39
And I’m done. I’m guided, I have spiritual beanies as well, because of this and I’m guided to mention for the men out there you don’t need a blue pill anymore.

Debra Muth 32:54
That is wonderful. Because we’re seeing a lot of that right now. You know, there’s a lot of problems. And even with COVID, we know that COVID is causing some vascular issues in the heart. Well, when you have vascular issues in the heart, you also have vascular issues in the penis. And so a lot of men are starting to have problems with erectile dysfunction post COVID

Debra Muth 33:21
So you can have a much better sex life, if you can find yourself some of this stem alive, and keep yourself healthy and young and decrease that inflammation, it’ll help in so many different avenues for you.

Robert Hill 33:33
That’s why I look at this as a site as a friendly side effect of being in a healthier body and taking care of that body. And part of that message as well could be by just the act of taking care of your body on your own. You’re loving your body instead of letting somebody else’s come in and do their thing. And that has an impact on health as well just by loving yourself. That’s why that’s what I mentioned about the spirituality as part of that childhood obviously being the skinny kid, a lot of abuse. Yeah, absolutely getting getting rid of that emotional trauma in the body as well as another avenue of healing. I’m not I do that, but I can’t really explain it. There’s other people I could have on your, on your show of how those types of modalities reducing that emotional storage, emotional baggage, if you will, to know in a clinical way.

Debra Muth 34:18
It’s such an important thing to release those those traumas that are kind of sometimes even hidden in our subconscious. We don’t even realize that they’re there sometimes. And other times we do but they can hold us back and once we figure out what’s happening and we can actually move past it, there’s so much healing that can happen.

Robert Hill 34:36
Just a simple act of how you speak with your children. Brendan Lyons daughters did an experiment now Japanese did it as well. They did it for a junior high school science fair project. They three identical plants by taking cuttings off of one then treat them identical except one who loves one you treat neutral and one you hate. Yeah, I spy speech but they were definitely speech they use sign language. Attention. I love you. I love taking care of you. I have to take care of you know, I hate taking care of You’re such a drag. And the plants showed it was obvious. Same thing with children. And the Japanese gentleman don’t recall the name of the experience was water. Over What? 60 65%? Water? Yeah. Yeah. Like you mentioned before the energies are around affect your water. So that could be a part of the healing path as well.

Debra Muth 35:26
Absolutely. affects so many things. Robert, this was so wonderful chatting with you. If people want to get in touch with you, or they want to chat with you. How do they do that?

Robert Hill 35:37
Oh, almost hesitant to do that. Because the last time I did this, I got so many text messages.

Debra Muth 35:46
So should we direct them right to the stemfoods.com website if they have questions about any of this?

Debra Muth 36:15
Awesome. Well, this is wonderful. I appreciate you sharing this because this is such a wonderful story. And I think so many people need to understand, there are so many things that we can do for ourselves to get ourselves better without having to have a doctor or practitioner do things to us, we can do things for us to make ourselves healthier and strong too. So thank you for sharing this,

Robert Hill 36:37
I would like to share one final little tip again guided to do this. For those I mentioned how I turned my backyard in the garden. That doesn’t have to be that extensive people think gardening is long rows of crops. There’s a technique called square foot gardening. Garding in small spaces.

Debra Muth 36:55
Wonderful. I love that.

Robert Hill 36:57
So people can research that as a way to start small four foot by four foot square doesn’t take much work 10 minutes a week, initial might take an hour or two. But after that 10 minutes a week, you can grow your your own salad.

Debra Muth 37:07
Mm hmm. Which is great, because I think we’re going to need to be doing some of that moving forward and just to be able to control our food and what goes in it. And what we eat is so important for us. And I think you’re right, there’s a lot of people that think we need this huge space to prepare food for our families and for ourselves, when we really don’t need that much space at all.

Robert Hill 37:32
And there were studies done in the studies are different now I know why. And like I said, I don’t want to go into politics. There were studies done in the 70s at UC Berkeley, California, that showed the benefits of raising foods organically versus chemically. Yeah, a lot of it had. Now they know a lot of it had to do with the microbiome, the micronutrients that are no longer in the soil, they haven’t been replenished. And it comes from manures. Like, the people that are vegetarian may not like it, but that’s where a lot of this stuff comes from, from animals, another class that drop, and then the past, take that up and process it through the oils. That’s what the store sells it.

Debra Muth 38:08
Mm hmm. Yeah. And that’s why when we look at things, we have to, you know, today, in order for us to get the same nutrition we got in the 50s. For one bowl of spinach , we’d have to eat 50 bowls of spinach today to have that same nutrient value. So when you’re asking people ask, Why do I have to take all these supplements? Well, this is why is because we’ve depleted our soils from so much nutrition, that our foods don’t have the nutritional value that they once had. And you can replace that in a lot of things. But it doesn’t replace it as a whole, you’re just replacing one nutrient. And one nutrient by itself is missing out all its cofactors, which is really a problem.

Robert Hill 38:43
And another other thing too is that when that supplement is from a chemical source, you’re not getting a true supplement, right? A piece of a supplement rather than the entire plant itself.

Debra Muth 38:54
Exactly, exactly. It’s so important to have all those cofactors involved in. In medicine, we think we’re so smart, we think we can identify the one thing that makes everything work. And many of our drugs come from plant sources. But we think we can pull out that one piece. And that’s going to make it work. And we forget that all these cofactors is exactly what makes it work. And that’s why we get side effects from a medication because we only pulled out the one thing that we thought was so helpful.

Robert Hill 39:22
And that’s exactly like to say the side effects I’ve had have all been positive.

Debra Muth 39:25
Yeah. That’s wonderful. That’s wonderful. Well, Robert

Robert Hill 39:28
And I can use a screwdriver again! No problems.

Debra Muth 39:34
That’s wonderful.

Robert Hill 39:36
But before that I could hardly move my fingers.

Debra Muth 39:38
Yeah. Well, this is such a wonderful story. Thank you so much for joining us today. I so appreciate that.

Robert Hill 39:44
Oh, you’re welcome. I was a little concerned about the doctor because I was another doctors podcast he said he would not publish it because it was not about Western medicine. Oh, yeah. That’s a shame because people need to be more open to alternatives that are alternatives that really do work.

Debra Muth 39:58
There are a lot of alternatives that Yes, yes. And we have to be open to all modalities. You know, I, I’m a naturopathic doctor. And I really believe there’s a place for traditional medicine, conventional medicine as we’ve been raised with it. But there’s a place for our traditional medicine that we’ve been raised with for 1000s of years to answer. And I think it’s putting the best of both worlds together. You know, if I break my arm, I want to see an orthopedic doctor because I want them to set it properly. And then I’m going to go see all of my alternative friends that can do all the things that are going to make that arm heal faster, better, and improve the process. I just want it set properly before I do all these other things. And there’s places for us to have all of this medicine, it doesn’t have to be an either or.

Robert Hill 40:46
Exactly. And again, that’s more of a more natural approach. Yeah, people don’t understand they see all this history, people didn’t live as long people still lived as long. But the age of the average age of death was was lower because so many infants died. Yes, infant mortality was part of that statistic, but you still have people live into their 80s and 90s. Healthy because of their diet. They didn’t have the chemicals that didn’t come about in the last 100 years.

Debra Muth 41:12
Right, right. And, the chemicals are what’s creating all of our problems with heart disease and cancer and diabetes. It’s all those chemicals that are creating those chronic illnesses like that for us. We have to understand that you know?

Robert Hill 41:26
And restoring the body in a natural way.

Debra Muth 41:28
Exactly, exactly. Well, thank you so much. You have a wonderful day.

Robert Hill 41:32
You too. Thank you, doctor.

Debra Muth 41:33
Okay, take care. Bye bye.

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