Episode 177: Epigenetics Can Be Causing Inflammation And Weight Gain with Annie Bush

Can your genes be making you fat? Short answer yes. Your genetic makeup can determine what you need to eat, how much and what type of exercise is best for you.

Genetic makeup can also determine what disease we are predisposed to BUT NOT destined to get. We can change the outcome if we understand epigenetics.

Annie Bush and Dr. Deb share a conversation about biohacking your genes using safe and effective lifestyle changes. But first you must know your genetic make up and then you can hack it. 

Do not miss these highlights:

  • use your genetics to develop that optimal health program for you specifically
  • it is your environment, the foods you eat, the things you drink, the toxins that you’re exposed to, that determines which genes get switched on and which ones stay switched off.
  • Annie’s personal story of how she went from the legal world to health and wellness and to cognitive decline 
  • Younger cases of cognitive decline are due to a toxic root case
  • People don’t understand about things like mold and heavy metals. Unless you affirmatively detox that mold out of you, it stays in your body
  • The importance of genetics and how it should just be your blueprint for life.
  • The effect how quick or how slowly metabolizing caffeine will have on a person
  • Difference between 23andMe and 3×4 genetics
  • When you’re having trouble with that conversion you can take exogenous ketones, which means outside the body in a drink, like in a powder that is already been converted is already in that beta hydroxy butyrate form.
  • Stem cells activation technology patches

Resources Mentioned

Whether you are recovering from an illness or just looking to maintain your current overall health, schedule a consult with us at Serenity Health Care by calling  (262)522-8640 or visit https://www.serenityhealthcarecenter.com 

About our Guest:

After spending over 10 years as a Federal and State Prosecutor, Annie Bush changed her focus to health and wellness education, and connecting the physical body with the spiritual mind. Over the last decade, her mantra has been, “It’s hard to have a clear thought with a toxic body.” As a nationally-recognized Certified Brain Health Coach under both Dr. Daniel Amen and Dr. Dale Bredesen, she helps clear the physical brain of cognitive conditions such as ADD, Anxiety, Depression, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s and Dementia, and customizes holistic protocols addressing these conditions. Using 3X4 Genetics, she utilizes your own DNA as your blueprint to drive your lifestyle choices regarding exercise, nutrition, sleep patterns, etc. for your optimal health. She uses photobiomodulation to stimulate the production of your own stem cells using the Lifewave stem cell activation patches.



Transcript for episode #177:

Debra Muth 0:02
Welcome to Let’s Talk wellness. Now, I’m your host, Dr. Deb. This is where we talk about everything wellness, and learn to defy aging, and live our lives on our own terms.

Debra Muth 0:16
Welcome back to Let’s Talk Wellness Now I’m your host, Dr. Deb, and today we’re going to talk about biohacking someone’s DNA to heal things like add anxiety, depression, Alzheimer’s disease, Parkinson’s, dementia, and so much more. My guest, Annie Bush, is here to talk about the brightest thin protocol and actually using someone’s DNA to heal the body to create that blueprint blueprint for lifestyle changes and choices, exercise, nutrition, sleep patterns, you name it, we can use your genetics to develop that optimal health program for you specifically, she’s also going to chat with us about using photo immune modulation to stimulate the production of one’s own stem cells to heal the body. Now, interestingly enough, Annie has not always been in health care. for over 10 years, she worked as a federal and state prosecutor. And she changed her focus to health and wellness education, learning how to connect the physical body with the spiritual mind. And I’m interested to hear all about how that actually happened. One of Annie’s mantras over the last decade has been, it’s hard to have a clear thought with a toxic body. So let’s learn how the body becomes toxic. Let’s ask Annie, how do we get to a clean body so we’re not toxic anymore? And then last, but not least, how do we take those genetics and really utilize them for an individualized approach to help heal not just your brain, but your mind, body and spirit all together as one?

Debra Muth 2:09
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Debra Muth 3:19
Welcome back to Let’s Talk wellness. Now I have Annie Bush with me today. And I’m excited to talk to her all about genetics and Dr. Bredesen, Dr. Ayman protocols, and how are we going to biohack our way into being healthier longer, you know, avoiding those neurological things. But if we also have anxiety, ATD, ADHD, some of those kinds of things, this technology and this protocol can also work for those types of illnesses as well. So Annie, welcome back to the show.

Annie Bush 3:56
Well, thank you, Dr. Deb, I’m so happy to be here. And you know, so much ground to cover, but eloquently it’s all connected.

Debra Muth 4:04
It is, it’s so amazing. When I started studying genetics, about 15 years ago, I was blown away how people could have such different genetics, even within families, right, like parent, I’ll tell a story in a little bit. But you know, even parents and kids can be so different and present so differently. Even if they have similar patterns. Everybody seems to present a little bit differently with that.

Annie Bush 4:29
And that has to do with their epigenetics because it is your environment, the foods you eat, the things you drink, the toxins that you’re exposed to, that determines which ones those genes get switched on and which ones stay switched off.

Debra Muth 4:47
It’s so amazing, and we don’t think about it that way at all. Any tell us a little bit about yourself before we dig into the nitty gritty of genetics.

Annie Bush 4:57
Well, by the time you get to be about our age, you’ve been through a few career changes, as if you were to you know what I always say every hole every career you’ve had, just adds to your skill set. And I started out in a legal path, I was a journalism major in college, went straight into being a legal clerk, that a paralegal, and then I ultimately became a prosecutor from the Department of Interior in the National Park Service. So I went into a legal track, went to law school. And the one thing that law school teaches you is how to read a lot of information, remember a lot of information and then how to apply it. So with that skill set, and then I became an assistant state attorney here in the state of Florida for six years. And then the term came in most of us in the wealth, health and wellness space. You know, we get here through either our personal journey, that something happened or through family members, and it was my parents. They both got cancer first, my dad got cancer, and then he passed and then my mom got cancer. And I moved in with her and I was taking her to her chemo treatments. And I saw how the traditional medical industry was treating her or not, yeah. What what was happening is I would take her over to her chemo, which for anybody who has ever never experienced that she basically went to go to a hospital setting, they have Lazy Boy chairs, and they hook you up on these IVs these PICC lines well, right next to where they had her seated. He had cookies and candy and cupcakes and all this sugar. And I didn’t know a lot then. But I knew that sugar fed cancer. So I went from being really confused as to why they’re feeding reverse chemo to kill the cancer giving her sugar at the same time to being really angry. And then I decided, okay, I wanted to do something about it. And that’s when I made the switch from being an illegal career to in health and wellness, I became a personal trainer, a health coach. And then I saw my personal training clients, with their parents suffering from cognitive decline, and how they were being treated or not treated by the traditional medical industry at all, you know, that’s what I made that turn into being really concentrating on cognitive decline and how that happens and what we can do to stop it and reverse it.

Debra Muth 7:43
Such a big problem right now. I mean, it’s not just your 70 and 80 year olds that are having issues with cognitive decline. It’s our 30 and 40 year olds, now I see it every day still practicing. And people will come in and say I swear I have dementia, I can’t remember things. I’m flipping words, I’m flipping letters, I forget what I go into a room for I mean, they’re seeing this inflammatory process happen much earlier than we have in the past decades.

Annie Bush 8:12
And usually, when it’s earlier like that, it’s a toxic root cause we’re talking heavy metals, we’re talking molds, we’re talking too much time in front of the computers, we’re talking EMFs, you know, and those of us that are hybrid electrical sensitive, that really doesn’t number on your brain. So usually those younger cases are more of the toxic exposure cases.

Debra Muth 8:39
Yeah, we treat a lot of mold and Lyme disease in our practice. So it’s not uncommon to see a lot of that brain cognitive stuff going on in the inflammation. And we have a Dr. Ayman clinic here in Illinois, which isn’t too far from where I am. So we get the luxury of sending people over for a SPECT scan, and being able to see their brain and see how inflamed it is and being able to share that with them and then devise that protocol to say, Okay, let’s fix your brain because here’s all the things that are inflaming it. And sometimes you’re blown away by what you see in those SPECT scans. It’s not what you expected at all.

Debra Muth 9:14
I know that part of the certification process was we had to learn, we had to look at like 100 specs, Dan, to be able to say, okay, that’s me being brave and being able to identify those different conditions. But what people don’t understand about things like mold and heavy metals is no matter at what point in your life you were exposed. So you were a child crawling around on the floor on a carpet and there was mold and you know, you’re down there right in it. Unless you affirmatively detox that mold out of you. It stays in your body. It stays with you as you get older, it knows then the more toxins you’re exposed to then we have that accumulation.

Debra Muth 9:58
And I think that’s one of the hardest parts for people with mold to recognize, because unless we see the black mold crawling up the wall, right? We don’t think there’s mold there. But people who have been exposed to mold tend to be very sensitive, they can smell mold, they walk into a building, and they know it’s there. I’m the same way. And you might not know where it is, but you know, it’s there, and you instantly get that hit. And for the next couple of days, you know, you’re swelling, you have weight gain, yourmbrain doesn’t work, you’re irritable, you’re moody, all of these crazy things that happen, and you have no explanation for it.

Annie Bush 10:32
Right? You know, you’re you have body aches, you know, these very general symptoms, but they’re devastating as far as your quality of life goes, Yeah, until you can identify it and then take actionable steps to read your body of them or what you can do.

Debra Muth 10:48
Can you talk a little bit how to when you’re looking at a SPECT scan? Because I know, in the past, we’ve gotten SPECT Scans back and they’ll say, consistent with Lyme, consistent with mold, those kinds of things. Is there a very particular look to the brain with somebody who’s been exposed to those kinds of things?

Annie Bush 11:03
I, I don’t have a luxury that you do. And next to a clinic and being able to see those scans on a regular basis. Gotcha. I just went through that when I was doing the certification, so as to particular as to what it looks like, I wouldn’t have to go back and dance. Right? Yeah.

Debra Muth 11:24
So let’s talk a little bit. Just everybody has genetics, right? We all have genes. That’s how we’re made. That’s how we were created by God, which is wonderful, dynamic things. But how does someone know that they should be looking at genetics because they have something going on? When do they go to saying, You know what, I think I need a genetic test versus a blood test for something else.

Annie Bush 11:48
Unfortunately, it’s usually the last thing that people think, you know, they think they get the answers from their tradition from their GPs, and whatnot. I’m a firm believer, now that I’ve been doing this for a little while, you should come out of the hospital with your birth certificate and your genetics. So as a parent, you would know what to feed or not feed your child, what sports they should be doing in high school. You know, how much time do they need to read cover? There are so many answers in your genetics, that it should just be your blueprint for life.

Debra Muth 12:22
It’s so true. When my daughter had her first baby. One of our practitioners treats autism in our clinic. And of course, all of the moms were like, please don’t vaccinate, please don’t do this, please don’t do that. And, and she was torn. She didn’t know what to do. And I said, Well, we know your genes. We know mine and your dad’s and we have detox issues. I said, Why don’t you do this? Why don’t you do her genetics when she’s born, and see if she can clear things. And if she can, then you choose what you want to do. But if she can’t, then you need to do other things. And we need to figure this path out. And so she chose that option. And when we got her genetics back, we were like, Oh, crap, like, if she would have had that first vaccine at delivery, I would be worried that she would have some cognitive issues and potentially an Asperger’s or an autism the way her genetics looked. And we all feel like we saved that child because we knew her genetics ahead of time.

Annie Bush 13:19
Yeah, more parents would do that. Oh my gosh, you know, we would have such healthier babies. So true. And so as adults, I would say if you are experiencing anything, aches and pains, um, your inability to lose weight, if you are struggling with anything, get your genetics done. It is such an easy process, and the answers can be right there for you. And it’s because it’s so customizable, it you know, it is your you know, it was divinely designed this as your blueprint of how you create it and how you respond to the environment.

Debra Muth 14:03
It’s so true. I mean, once you know that when we talk biohacking, like Joe Rogan’s always talking biohacking, like this is the ultimate biohacking. Once you have this knowledge, you know what supplements to take, what drugs not to take, or which ones you could take, and you know what to eat, what not to eat, how to exercise, just like you said, you know, all of that information.

Annie Bush 14:25
Right? And with a 3×4 genetics, that report is laid out so well, and it’s so actionable. I work for a Health Institute here in Sarasota. My husband went and got his genetics done. It was 171 pages of data. And that’s all it was was data and I’m a pretty sharp girl. And it took me forever to get through there and cross referencing and doing this and try to figure out you know, what do you should be doing and not doing with three export genetics. They Basically group the genes. So everybody, little genetics 101, we have between like 12, we have about 25,000 genes in there and pairs, you get one from your mother’s side and one from your father’s side, we’re on 99.9%. The same, and it’s that point 1% That makes us all different. And what 3x Four genetics is done as identified pathway, it’s exercise, yo nutrition, how you methylate how you get rid of toxins, your new your inflammatory markers, and they have grouped the genes in these pathways because they work synergistically together. So part of the deal is we are going to chain we’re going to shift the paradigm as to how we talk about our genetics, there are no bad genes, there are no good genes, and we do not have mutations with our genes. We are who we are. There’s no judgement. There are no villain genes out there. There’s no fat jeans and skinny jeans and longevity genes. You know, they work synergistically together in these pathways, and that’s how the report is set up. So you can look at, you know, your exercise, and for me when I had mine done, I it was very eye opening. Genetically, I’m designed for endurance sports. Okay, not sprints, which explains why I really am not very good at things like pickleball and tennis, because those are fast twitch muscle activities rather than slow twitch muscles. So I’m like, Okay, well, this explains that. I was doing keto up until I go my genetics done. Okay, everything was kind of sauteed in bacon fat, and we know but we were eating clean, like grass fed beef. We were eating high quality proteins. I get my genetics back and probably the worst thing I should be eating is animal saturated fat. So that was the first little hurdle I’m like, Okay, I’m a big girl. I can I can I can handle that. Well, the next layer to that is I have trouble clearing histamines. Now people think of histamines as allergic reactions. But there’s certain elements and foods that if they build up, your body starts to react in an inflammatory way. Well, two of those foods for me are avocados and walnuts.

Debra Muth 17:31
All things that are big on the keto diet,

Annie Bush 17:33
and for brain health while the brain, so making those adjustments, and here’s the key. I didn’t think I was feeling bad. I, once I made this switch, I am feeling so much better. It’s the key here is we get used to how we feel and it becomes our normal. Sure. Right. And then we don’t realize how much our body was struggling with internal inflammation and working too hard to process certain foods,

Debra Muth 18:11
Because the body will adapt. I mean, it’s meant to adapt starvation, cold heat, all of those things. But at one point, it’s kind of like the straw that broke the camel’s back, right? You’ll keep adapting until something else comes in. And all of a sudden, somebody pulls the rug out from under you. And now you’re really not feeling well. But you don’t know why or what it was that caused it.

Annie Bush 18:32
Right? It’s either the adaption like you said, or putting the band aids on, like when we were eating, if I would eat a heavy protein meal, and I can feel my stomach already starting to act up a little bit, oh, I just need some hypochloric acid, I’m not My stomach’s not making enough to be able to process I’m gonna just take some enzymes. Well, it was really my body telling me, Hey, I’m not designed to break this down. Go ahead and give me some enzymes, but it’s still gonna cause the inflammation.

Debra Muth 19:02
Yeah, I think that’s the one problem that like all of our disease is inflammation. And it sounds so simple, right? It’s just inflammation. But it’s so complicated, because you have to figure out where that inflammatory process is coming from. And genetics really helps us do that and dial that right in to a particular area, whether you’re not detoxing properly, or you’re eating the wrong foods, or you’re sleeping in the wrong pattern of sleep or exercise, like what you were talking about, and even right down to like how we manage stress. That’s our genetics tell us all of that.

Annie Bush 19:37
Huge and this particular test even tells you how quickly or how slowly you metabolize caffeine. Which is huge when it comes to things like not only your sleep, because we always, you know, we always can always compare like how much caffeine you’ve had, or how your quality of sleep is. But if you’re not clearing the caffeine that’s Increasing information, maybe some hypertension, maybe a little anxiety. Maybe you’re a little more on edge than you should with baths because you’re not being able to clear that caffeine out. Sure.

Debra Muth 20:12
It’s such a mess, isn’t it sometimes? Can you talk a little bit about 23andme? Because I know our listeners are going to say, wait a minute, I had 23andme. Done 15 years ago, when they first came out maybe a little longer. Now I’m aging myself. But I have that done back then. Can I use that genetic test now to find the information that we’re talking about? Or do I need to go back and have a completely new genetic test done?

Annie Bush 20:40
Well, what 23andme and ancestry.com, it is your ancestry? Where did your parents, your grandparents, your great grandparents, where did they come from? What 3×4 genetic says What did they contribute to you.

Debra Muth 20:58
Gotcha. So when 23andme came out, originally, they were doing all kinds of health snips and and genes until the FDA slapped their hand. And they had to change everything. So if people were one of those very first customers of 23andme, could it potentially work or No, still not, you would still recommend the three.

Annie Bush 21:19
Right? You need to work with a company that has certified practitioners that know how to interpret for your results. Key if you’re going to be on your when you work with a practitioner, it takes the guesswork out of everything. Or you are going to be on the internet, working with Dr. Google. And not being able to put the big picture together and the synergy of how these genes work together.

Debra Muth 21:51
That’s a great point. Because you know, when 23andme first came out in genetics first started being an issue, all the software pieces came out to interpret the data, right? We could upload the raw data to neutral hacker and live well Oh, and this person and that person, and they would interpret your data. And one thing that I learned back then is it’s all conflicting data. So you’ve got this snip that says you need vitamin C, you’ve got this gene that says, no vitamin C. This one says curcumin, this one says no curcumin and the patient’s looking at us going, what do I do? And that’s the problem with some of the software’s they’re very generalized, right? I mean, it’s not meant to get down to the nitty gritty of you,

Annie Bush 22:33
Right, the direct to consumer tests, don’t know who you are. And they don’t know your symptoms. So that’s the other thing that when you work with a company company like 3×4 is we do an intake process. I want to know what’s going on with you. What is your family history? What are you presently experiencing? I had a gentleman yesterday, that on his intake form, he was experiencing numbness in his toes. And he’s a pretty young guy. So to have this kind of neuropathy kind of thing going on, there was no diabetes. Here, he has some snips that were working synergistically together, that was not allowing B 12 To pass from his bloodstream into his cells. That was causing the tingling and numbness in his toes. We were able to connect those two.

Debra Muth 23:29
Yeah. And that’s key when you’re able to sit down with an experienced practitioner, and go through your symptoms as well as go through that genetic makeup. Because when you see a particular gene setup, I’ll call it a setup, not a mutation, you see a setup, right? Right, you know that that person is going to have or possibly have x, y, and z as a symptom. So you can explore that with them. Right? And see, you know, how long has it been going on? When did it start? What’s going on with it? And you can ask other questions about detox. And have you had exposure to this or this because as you see that big picture, you can narrow it in.

Annie Bush 24:09
Right, right. And, you know, simple as you know, somebody that gets easily agitated, you know, being able to look at their genes, and we can look at their neurotransmitters. Yes. And look at those genes associated with hypertension. And usually they’re playing together. Right? So being able to take you as a person and what you’re experiencing together with your genetics. That’s what completes the story.

Debra Muth 24:40
Yeah. And let’s talk about how long of a process this is to look at someone’s genes, and then have this conversation with them and present that information because it’s not like we’re going to do this in 20 minutes.

Annie Bush 24:58
We’re not I just blow that expectation out right now. Yeah, the process is around four weeks from the time that we would have a task, and it’s a cheek swab.

Debra Muth 25:09
Okay, good.

Annie Bush 25:10
The kit is sent directly. So let’s just say what you’re gonna have your test on will or you order it through me, the test is sent directly to you, you do the swab, you send it back directly to the lab, and from the time that you send it in to the time that I get the results is about four weeks.

Debra Muth 25:29

Annie Bush 25:29
And what happens is I do my initial analysis, then there is a senior peer review with 3×4, they go over and they do this with everybody, they go over the results to make sure you’ve got it right. You’re not missing anything key. And then we set up the either one to one or the zoom with the client. Now, part of my intake process is how are you with change? Are you likes to jump right in and just tackle everything? Are you one step at a time. So if you are somebody that needs to ease into change and doing it, then we set up a program where we you know, more frequently? So you know, this week, let’s start integrating this, or let’s start, you know, so how are you doing with this aspect of things. Because if somebody has a lot of changes to make, you know, the body, the brain needs time to adjust.

Debra Muth 26:30
Yeah, and you can’t start all these changes in supplements to hack your genes all at one time. It is like building a seven layer cake, right? You have to start at the bottom. Because if you start in the wrong place, you’re going to trigger more symptoms. And people aren’t ready for that. So you have to prepare the body. Like you said, you have to let the brain kind of calm down. You have to make some lifestyle changes. It is not this okay, one and done. Here’s your supplement list. Here’s what you’re going to eat, have a good life. Good luck with that. It’s not that kind of process at all.

Annie Bush 27:04
Right? And you know, this kind of tags into the brain. However, you can’t take somebody who’s been eating a high carb or low carbohydrate diet and switch, switch them over to keto, overnight.

Debra Muth 27:15
Yeah, they’ll get the Keto flu.

Annie Bush 27:18
Well, and what part of that is, is the brain is starving for fuel because you’ve taken glucose away and you haven’t up the healthy fats, enough to create the ketones to create a fuel source for the brain. So that you’ve got to do that gradually, so that the brain is not efficient.

Debra Muth 27:37
we had a patient come to us a couple of years ago with Alzheimer’s disease. And another practitioner had put her on keto, because that’s good for the body, right. And it’s good for the brain. However, when we looked at her genetics, she had a gene pattern-

Annie Bush 27:56

Debra Muth 27:57
yes. Trying to change my language, there, yes, very variation, that doesn’t allow her body to break down fat. And within three weeks of starting keto, she completely stopped speaking, she just didn’t speak anymore. And the family was concerned. That’s why we saw them. And we said, it’s got to be this. The only bad problem was taking her off of keto and back onto a diet that her genetics allowed her to process well, didn’t bring her speech back. And they were very frustrated with that. And and this is part of the issue. If you don’t know genes, and we’re just saying generalized health, this is good for everybody. In cases like this, it can really be a problem,

Annie Bush 28:40
Right. And like, for me, if I had weight problem, genetically, I have too many inflammatory soldiers that are protecting my fat cells.

Debra Muth 28:52
So they just want you to hang on to them.

Annie Bush 28:54
Right. So genetically, I am a person that would not lose weight, say from exercise. And so for the, like the woman that you just spoke about the client, you just spoke about, those fat cells were probably being protected by inflammatory solders. So you need to deal with the inflammation first, to be able to release those fat cells. But then you start using, you know, when the brain needs to build and we start talking exogenous ketones, and there is a place for exogenous ketones, when you need to get fuel up to the brain, because it’s an immediate uptake. No matter what nutritional status, you’re in. The brain will uptake exogenous ketones,

Debra Muth 29:37
and explain to our listeners what exogenous ketones actually are. Okay, so

Annie Bush 29:42
when you eat healthy fats, let’s say you’re eating really good dinner of like wild salmon, and avocado and some olives and healthy fats. They get converted in the liver to ketones. Okay, the chemical name is beta hydroxy butyrate. So a food source of the- is the healthy fats, the conversion happens in the liver, and then it becomes a ketone body, which is an energy unit, if you want to think of it that way for the brain. When you’re having trouble with that conversion, like if you’re if you’ve got an unhealthy liver, you can take exogenous ketones, which means outside the body in a drink, like in a powder that is already been converted is already in that beta hydroxy butyrate form.

Debra Muth 30:32
So I have a lot of clients that think that they can get these exogenous ketones from bone broth, is that true?

Annie Bush 30:41
I don’t know that off-hand I always think of bone broth as a source of collagen, but not necessarily ketones. There are various companies out there.

Debra Muth 30:54
Good point

Annie Bush 30:55
I have ketones in their bone broth. And I have some salted caramel in my closet right now that have ketones in the bone broth.

Debra Muth 31:06
So they’re, they’re, they’re developing products that can do two things at one time for people. And they don’t have to do separate things anymore, which is kind of nice for us.

Annie Bush 31:17
Right. Exactly. I multitask everything. Yeah, meet you. You would see everything that’s in my morning cup of coffee, you’d be like, Oh, my God. But yes, and so that’s and that’s, those are good delivery systems. And especially with exogenous ketones, like even Dr. Bredesen recommends in the beginning when you’re switching over from a more carbohydrate based diet to a healthy fats to use those exogenous ketones in the building in the beginning, so that you have that fuel source up to your brain.

Debra Muth 31:51
Yeah, and part of that is because we burn through carbs so quickly for energy. And our fat and proteins are slower burn. So if you’re used to doing carbs all the time, you’re constantly getting that hit. And it’s quick. And so what you need. And when you do fat or protein, it’s slow and steady. And so you can feel bad, you feel like you can’t think when that happens,

Annie Bush 32:16
Right. But that’s also then it helps set you up to be able to do intermittent fasting.

Debra Muth 32:21

Annie Bush 32:22
Why? Because it is a slower burn. Yeah. And which that’s another thing that’s really good for your brain is to do those periods of intermittent fasting because your brain and your body restores when you’re not putting anything in it.

Debra Muth 32:35
Yes. And if you’re always doing carbs, it’s very hard to do a long enough intermittent fast to get that process of healing going, because you’re hungry again, right away. Yeah, it’s like, your blood sugar. Yeah, yes, exactly

Annie Bush 32:49
like sugar all day long. And that’s why, you know, that’s why you know, it, let’s get back to working with a practitioner, when you’re going to be making these changes. So there’s somebody out there that says, I’m gonna start intermittent fasting, great, and they’ve been doing a carbohydrate, you’re gonna feel like you’re dying, because your body is used to having that level of carbohydrates in it, and your blood sugar, you’ve got to just really ease into these things. Yeah.

Debra Muth 33:18
And people, you know, it’s funny, when we’re younger, our bodies much more forgiving. But then when we’re a little bit more mature, I won’t say older, more mature. You know, when you used to be able to say, Well, I used to be able to go all day without eating. And now, you know, I’m 40. And I can’t do that anymore. Well, yes, because your body’s changing a little bit. And toxins have changed, and it’s built up a little bit more. And so to set yourself up for success, you have to know what to do differently in each decade, really, because it changes so much.

Annie Bush 33:48
Or you can start using things like stem cells to actually start reversing the aging process, stopping the aging process and reversing the aging process. And that’s where, and I don’t even know if he’d spoken about this. But there’s a company out there. It’s called lifewave that has stem cell wearable tech, it’s a patch that actually will start stimulating your own stem cells. We’re talking no injections, no drugs, no traveling out of the country, none of that craziness. And using the pack it’s using. It’s called Photo bio modulation. Sure you’re familiar with but for your listeners, it’s the simple premise just like when you go out in the sun, and when the sun hits your skin, your skin converts that wavelength into vitamin D. Okay, so when you put this patch on the center of the patch has crystals in it, but your body heat hits the crystals the crystals then form a wavelength that goes back into your body and stimulate your own stem cells.

Debra Muth 34:58
It’s awesome. Let’s let’s dive and a little bit here for our last 15 minutes or so on stem cell because stem cells are incredible. And when we’re talking aging, we’re not just talking to beauty aging, collagen and skin, we’re talking cell turnover cell aging. And those cells, when they age, they get old and they get bad. And then that’s what develops disease for us. So let’s talk a little bit more about this technology.

Annie Bush 35:25
So when you’re little, you know, you’re full of stem cells, that’s why you could scrape a knee and as soon as you scrape that knee, the stem cells were rushing there to create the new skin. Well, by the time you get to be about 60, you’re not making any at all. Yeah, and your skin is your skin is full of the potential to make stem cells. So it’s in your skin is there just waiting for you to activate. So, um, the actual stem cell activation technology started back in the 1970s, with Dr. Loren Pickart, who discovered that when you activate a certain peptide, which is GHK copper peptide, when you activate it, it activates your stem cells. Now when you put the patch on here, it’s like a one inch circle. And that’s what the patch looks like. And then the center has that crystal matrix in the middle. When you put the patch on, the stem cells immediately go and this is where that divine design happens. The stem cells will go to the area that needs the most help. Okay, so let’s say you’ve got something going on with your liver that you don’t know about. That’s where the stem cells are gonna go. If you have and this is really important for any of your listeners out there that have auto immune because the basis foundation for an auto immune, besides having a genetic predisposition is having a leaky gut. Yes. So what the stem cells can do is go down and repair that leaky gut. So they will go to your liver to your kidneys, to your intestines to your brain to create new cells.

Debra Muth 37:14
Now this this technology, is it creating brand new, what we call exosomes cells, like the baby cells that are going to turn into stem cells, and they’re healthy and young, or are they going to try to reactivate our old stem cells that aren’t working properly?

Annie Bush 37:29
No, these are pluripotent cells that are undifferentiated. They’re brand new, and they don’t. Yeah, so and that’s ah, and while I appreciate the use of stem cells, the injections, you know, you’re always worried about the source, how your body’s gonna react, even if you take some of your existing ones out and spin them in injected back end, you don’t know, right?

Debra Muth 37:52
There’s still old stem cells, you know, they’re still your old, however old you are stem cells that aren’t going to work as well as new baby stem cells.

Annie Bush 38:00
Right, exactly. And the science says that with six months of us wearing this x39, stem cell patch, you will reverse your cellular age by eight years.

Debra Muth 38:15
Wow, that’s awesome. And you could determine that because you could do a telomere test before and after. And you could prove to yourself that your chronological age, your cell age actually went backwards with something like that. That’s cool.

Annie Bush 38:31
Yeah, I know a woman who is sixty years old that started her menstrual cycle again.

Debra Muth 38:35
Oh, okay. I don’t want to go there again.

Annie Bush 38:39
But that’s, that’s the show is you? Yeah. She’s like, this is not something I wish for. But it shows that it is work.

Debra Muth 38:49
It does. And, and we see that like, as the inflammation goes down in someone, especially women who lose their menstrual cycle because of mold toxicity, or Lyme disease, which happens quite often and rather young. If you can repair those cells, you can get some of that function back. It doesn’t necessarily mean that ovaries have completely shut down. It just means that they’re stressed enough that they’re working hard to try to keep up and they can’t.

Annie Bush 39:14
Right, and I’m looking forward to I’ve been on been using the patches since December. And I had a full blood draw, you know, almost right when I started the patches. So I’m really interested to seeing what my thyroid function is because I’m very hypo thyroid. Like I wasn’t converting my T4 low, my teeth, T3 was low, everything was low. So I’m looking forward to see if the stem cells had any effect on my thyroid.

Debra Muth 39:42
That would be awesome, isn’t it? Yeah, I’ve seen that with peptide therapy. We do injectable peptides in our office. And I have seen people start to have better function to the point where they’re now hyperstimulated on their medications, and we’ve got to start weaning them down off of that. And it’s a great thing you know, when you When you ask, is this going to be a lifetime thing to be on five? Right? Well, it kind of depends. What are you willing to do to not have it be a lifetime thing? You know, that’s ultimately what it is.

Annie Bush 40:11
Yeah, that will, that’s where it’s so exciting when you can get off medications of any kind, absolutely. Statins, high blood pressure, medication, cholesterol, medication, all of that, and just allowing your body to heal itself, which it has the power to do.

Debra Muth 40:27
Yes, it does. It’s, you know, our bodies have been designed to heal themselves and adapt to whatever environment we put it in. But that doesn’t mean that putting it in the wrong environment of food, and no sleep. And stress is a good environment. And we should keep doing that. Because eventually the body is going to cave. And it’s going to take a lot more to get yourself back to the place where it’s working. Well, if you don’t take care of yourself throughout that lifespan.

Annie Bush 40:55
Absolutely. It’s like buying a new car and not getting the manual.

Debra Muth 41:02
Or a computer for that matter, right? You’re getting

Annie Bush 41:05
something without a manual and then trying to figure out on your own, you know why this light keeps blinking? Or you know why it doesn’t start or you know, then you’re on the internet with Dr. Google trying to figure out why your car won’t start because you don’t have a manual. That’s what your genetics aren’t for your body. Yeah, you know, you can use your report, then, just as your reference manual for life, when you start filling this data. The other thing, like let’s say you move, and you start feeling something, it could be anything from your something in a carpeting, there’s something in the curtains, there’s something in that furniture, you know, there’s something your body is reacting to,

Debra Muth 41:43
you can go look at your genetics, then and see, where do you need to be narrowing that focus in? Right, and what do you need to be supplementing with or changing in your diet to adjust for that change?

Annie Bush 41:57
Right, you know, especially when we were talking about methylation pathways and detoxification pathways. You know, I know people that we look at their genetics, and they’re missing those glutathione pathways. They have no holes in their glutathione. Well, there’s where there’s workarounds. But unless you know that you don’t know to do the workarounds.

Debra Muth 42:19
Yes, so true. Ann this has been so amazing. And I guess we could talk for hours, but I want to be respectful of your time. If people are listening to us, and they’re like, I need to do this, I need to get this genetics. I need to know how to do this. I want access to that LightWave thing, and how do they get in touch with you to get started on a path like this?

Annie Bush 42:42
They can either go to my website, it’s yourtotalbody.comy not dot com. It’s got CO says your total body dot CO, or they can just email me yourtotalbody@yahoo.com Easiest two ways to get a hold of me right now. I just say, Hey, I was listening to your doctor Deb’s program. I’m interested in the stem cells. I’m interested in getting my genetics done. You know, I’m struggling to lose weight. You know, whatever. What is your concern? What? What’s holding you back? You know, is it joint pain? Are you not being able to sleep? Are you struggling to lose weight? Do you have brain fog, it’s like what’s going on, it’s really affecting your quality of life.

Debra Muth 43:28
Awesome. This is so good. Because this is just such a cool way to biohack and stay younger, longer, which all of us want to do. But also stay healthier, longer, like we don’t mind living to be 100 As long as we look and feel like we’re 60 or 70. And we can do everything we want to do. We’re not crippled in a nursing home somewhere, you know, drooling on ourselves. We don’t want that that’s not a quality of life. We want this good quality. This is how you get it.

Annie Bush 43:58
Right. It is switching that paradigm of thinking to one of longevity and not mortality.

Debra Muth 44:02
Yes, absolutely. Oh, I love that. Well, thank you so much for being with us today. This has been such a pleasure. And I definitely want to have you back on the show. So we can dig a little deeper even yet.

Annie Bush 44:13
Oh that would be great. I mean, because we can really dive into any of these aspects.

Debra Muth 44:18
So awesome.

Debra Muth 44:22
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